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		<title>By: Rogers Wireless iPhone 3G = FAIL &#124; Ian Andrew Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.brendonwilson.com/blog/2008/06/27/rogers-iphone-3g-pricing-lube-not-included/comment-page-1/#comment-232103</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogers Wireless iPhone 3G = FAIL &#124; Ian Andrew Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3G in Canada.  It was that summer, in 2008, I unloaded my first-generation unlocked iPhone for a legit iPhone 3G from Rogers Wireless.  One of the benefits of having a carrier-supported iPhone is, of course, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3G in Canada.  It was that summer, in 2008, I unloaded my first-generation unlocked iPhone for a legit iPhone 3G from Rogers Wireless.  One of the benefits of having a carrier-supported iPhone is, of course, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>spartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rogers is stewing canadians for there money chase we have a smaller population): ):</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rogers is stewing canadians for there money chase we have a smaller population): ):</p>
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		<title>By: 24hrs Blogosphere Buzz: 07.09.08 &#124; cyberbuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.brendonwilson.com/blog/2008/06/27/rogers-iphone-3g-pricing-lube-not-included/comment-page-1/#comment-179300</link>
		<dc:creator>24hrs Blogosphere Buzz: 07.09.08 &#124; cyberbuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “Rogers has unveiled its pricing structure for the iPhone 3G in Canada, and it can be summarized in one syllable. Unfortunately, this is a family-oriented website, so I’ll have to use a different syllable: Ouch. By all appearances, the Rogers iPhone 3G plans are optimized for complexity and designed to milk the consumer dry. Way to go Rogers, you’ve exceeded my expectations, but not in a good way.” – BrendonWilson.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “Rogers has unveiled its pricing structure for the iPhone 3G in Canada, and it can be summarized in one syllable. Unfortunately, this is a family-oriented website, so I’ll have to use a different syllable: Ouch. By all appearances, the Rogers iPhone 3G plans are optimized for complexity and designed to milk the consumer dry. Way to go Rogers, you’ve exceeded my expectations, but not in a good way.” – BrendonWilson.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antipode - Link - No unlimited plan, thank you</title>
		<link>http://www.brendonwilson.com/blog/2008/06/27/rogers-iphone-3g-pricing-lube-not-included/comment-page-1/#comment-179123</link>
		<dc:creator>Antipode - Link - No unlimited plan, thank you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of uproar about the Canadian iPhone plans from Rogers. There are some legitimate complaints: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been a lot of uproar about the Canadian iPhone plans from Rogers. There are some legitimate complaints: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Value Packs&quot; == &quot;Profit Packs&quot;

they&#039;re designed not for the convenience of the customer, but for the benefit of Rogers to charge you for 1 or 2 &quot;essentials&quot; you really need. but individually they&#039;re so outrageously priced (for something that should be standard) that you feel inclined to buy the bundle with 3 or 4 other useless features. (Caller RingTrax, anyone?)

actually, you can buy Caller Display separately, without the Profit Pack. That&#039;s a &quot;wireless essential&quot; aka a feature that should be standard. others would be voicemail, extra text messaging, etc.
by itself, Caller Display is $7 (they do the same for all other plans). Rogers has recently confirmed you don&#039;t have to buy one of the 2 mentioned Profit Packs with the iPhone 3G, you can buy the essentials a la carte. How generous of them!

it reminds me in a way of how Air Canada tries to put a positive spin on the fact that you have to buy snacks and meals on some flights - &quot;look at the great selection and convenience we&#039;re offering you, see our Popular and Innovative Menu!&quot;. I can&#039;t wait to see how they decide to tell us they&#039;re doing us a favour by charging for checked baggage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Value Packs&#8221; == &#8220;Profit Packs&#8221;</p>
<p>they&#8217;re designed not for the convenience of the customer, but for the benefit of Rogers to charge you for 1 or 2 &#8220;essentials&#8221; you really need. but individually they&#8217;re so outrageously priced (for something that should be standard) that you feel inclined to buy the bundle with 3 or 4 other useless features. (Caller RingTrax, anyone?)</p>
<p>actually, you can buy Caller Display separately, without the Profit Pack. That&#8217;s a &#8220;wireless essential&#8221; aka a feature that should be standard. others would be voicemail, extra text messaging, etc.<br />
by itself, Caller Display is $7 (they do the same for all other plans). Rogers has recently confirmed you don&#8217;t have to buy one of the 2 mentioned Profit Packs with the iPhone 3G, you can buy the essentials a la carte. How generous of them!</p>
<p>it reminds me in a way of how Air Canada tries to put a positive spin on the fact that you have to buy snacks and meals on some flights &#8211; &#8220;look at the great selection and convenience we&#8217;re offering you, see our Popular and Innovative Menu!&#8221;. I can&#8217;t wait to see how they decide to tell us they&#8217;re doing us a favour by charging for checked baggage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rogers iPhone Pricing: Reaction From Around the Web &#124; &#124; IT Infusion in Calgary, Alberta, Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogers iPhone Pricing: Reaction From Around the Web &#124; &#124; IT Infusion in Calgary, Alberta, Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NICCAI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How do Canadians feel about Rogers&#8217; iPhone plans?</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICCAI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How do Canadians feel about Rogers&#8217; iPhone plans?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to Rogers Communications &#171; JordanBehan.com</title>
		<link>http://www.brendonwilson.com/blog/2008/06/27/rogers-iphone-3g-pricing-lube-not-included/comment-page-1/#comment-178041</link>
		<dc:creator>An Open Letter to Rogers Communications &#171; JordanBehan.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sources: Brendon compares AT&amp;T to Rogers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sources: Brendon compares AT&amp;T to Rogers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon J. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon J. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeffery Simpson: Yes and no. While Canada is larger geographically, the actual &lt;em&gt;populated&lt;/em&gt; land area is smaller.

The majority of the population lives within 100km of the US border - so Canada is actually more like Chile tipped on its side. There are, from the perspective of population, only really a handful of significantly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citypopulation.de/Canada-Metro.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;populated Canada metropolitan areas&lt;/a&gt; (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Quebec). 

It is folly to argue that it&#039;s more expensive for Rogers because they have to service &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; of Canada, which has a smaller population. Nobody said they needed to service middle-of-nowhere-ville, did they?

That said, sure, there is reason to believe it will be &lt;em&gt;somewhat&lt;/em&gt; more expensive; however, the extent of the expense seems out of line. That&#039;s not limited to the iPhone cell phone plan - everything seems to be unjustifiably more expensive here, and everyone just accepts it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeffery Simpson: Yes and no. While Canada is larger geographically, the actual <em>populated</em> land area is smaller.</p>
<p>The majority of the population lives within 100km of the US border &#8211; so Canada is actually more like Chile tipped on its side. There are, from the perspective of population, only really a handful of significantly <a href="http://www.citypopulation.de/Canada-Metro.html" rel="nofollow">populated Canada metropolitan areas</a> (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Quebec). </p>
<p>It is folly to argue that it&#8217;s more expensive for Rogers because they have to service <em>all</em> of Canada, which has a smaller population. Nobody said they needed to service middle-of-nowhere-ville, did they?</p>
<p>That said, sure, there is reason to believe it will be <em>somewhat</em> more expensive; however, the extent of the expense seems out of line. That&#8217;s not limited to the iPhone cell phone plan &#8211; everything seems to be unjustifiably more expensive here, and everyone just accepts it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You always make me laugh.

http://www.fuckyourogers.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You always make me laugh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fuckyourogers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuckyourogers.com/</a></p>
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